we used to be better than the democrats. they're now better than us. just like this israeli army, it's time for brutal honesty inside our party. >> you've just given us a nice conversation to kick off. mr. murphy i will talk to you down the road. hello, panel. sara, how about that brutal honesty about the operative class? well, you at least get to say hey i was on you''04. >> i was on '04. >> how right was he? i go back to the same question. who lost this election mitt romney or the republican party? >> he's right. they're interlinked. but, you know, mitt romney in many ways was a bridge candidate to a changing republican party. you look at the deep bench of chris christie, paul ryan, marco rubio, ted cruz, susana martinez. it feels really dark today, but there is a bright side for republicans. and we're going to have some great faces moving forward. >> the dark ages of the republicans in '64 meant they weren't going to win another presidential election until 1968. four years later. i mean these things do have a way of turning the democrats. >> and 201